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MrEMann



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http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-H5741/text

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H.R. 5741 is currently being argued in the house of representatives. If passed, H.R. 5741 will give the president the power to require 2 years of compulsory service from every US resident between ages 18 and 42. That's not a misprint: everyone between ages eighteen and forty-two will be required to serve in any capacity at the president's whim.


Ready to be drafted?
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Post Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:56 pm   View user's profile Send private message
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The Bill has only been submitted to committee. So if the committee does something other than light the new Bill and Charles Rangel on fire, I'd be very surprised.
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Insane shit like this is always being introduced. I'm not TOO worried about it, because we have the 13th Amendment on our side. Also, Democrats are trying to get reelected and would vote against it if it made them look good. Radical factions MAY try to push it through if they become a Lame Duck Congress, but the Supreme Court would likely knock it down if the following congress doesn't repeal it. And as right-wingish as I am, I think that President Obama realizes how unpopular he would become if he signed such a bill into to law. Doesn't look good for reelection prospects, if y'know what I'm saying.
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Im too lazy to read the bill... Does it say compulsery MILITARY service? Of just service? Try reading starship troopers... RH makes an excellent arguement in favor of this... And i have to second it...
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Draft = Bad Idea. The last thing I would want is to hand someone who doesn't give a shit a loaded weapon and expect him to have my back.
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sugarraydodge wrote:

Draft = Bad Idea. The last thing I would want is to hand someone who doesn't give a shit a loaded weapon and expect him to have my back.


For real!

Try reading Heinlein's 1st book sometime-
you know, the one that was published long after he died-
it's really more of a political treaste than a novel but that's kinda the point...

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sugarraydodge wrote:
Draft = Bad Idea. The last thing I would want is to hand someone who doesn't give a shit a loaded weapon and expect him to have my back.


The draft worked fine up until vietnam... Even then it seemed to work ok ... Were it not for all the shenanigans here at home...

I served 9 yrs in an all volunteer (except for the guys who chose army vs jail) army and i would not worry about conscripts having my back... Everyones life depends on the man next to him... Conscripts understand that just as well as professionals
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conspiracies unlimited wrote:
sugarraydodge wrote:
Draft = Bad Idea. The last thing I would want is to hand someone who doesn't give a shit a loaded weapon and expect him to have my back.


The draft worked fine up until vietnam... Even then it seemed to work ok ... Were it not for all the shenanigans here at home...

I served 9 yrs in an all volunteer (except for the guys who chose army vs jail) army and i would not worry about conscripts having my back... Everyones life depends on the man next to him... Conscripts understand that just as well as professionals


We can't even do that no more. When I became an Army recruiter they had specifically amended the regulation (AR 601-210) and now its illegal for us to write contracts for people who have been given an ultimatum by a judge to avoid jailtime. That was in 2002, so its been at least 8 years since that has happened (legally.) I, for one, am grateful.
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I never had a problem with the guys that served in lieu of jail time... For the most part they stayed out of trouble, and on numerous occassions kept the other guys out of trouble (prevented gyys from getting into bar fights and such)... They had too much to lose, so they kept out of trouble... It was the bleeding hearts and barracks lawyers that were a pain to serve with
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Not quite about in lieu of jail, but a favorite poem:

I was the first fruits of the battle of Missionary Ridge.
When I felt the bullet enter my heart
I wished I had staid at home and gone to jail
For stealing the hogs of Curl Trenary,
Instead of running away and joining the army,
Rather a thousand times the county jail
Than to lie under this marble figure with wings,
And this granite pedestal
Bearing the words 'Pro Patria.'
What do they mean, anyway?

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ok but isn't it possible that not having a draft makes it so that they just keep sending the same guys back over and over? and since quite a few people join the army to pay for their schooling and try to escape the cycle of poverty, it seems to me that not having a draft only prevents rich kids from serving. which also might make it easier for the government to occupy irag, without too much resistance, (we are still there, right? seriously i make a concerted effort to not think about horribly depressing things that i have no control over) because aren't people with higher incomes more likely to vote?
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Nah, it's mostly lack of time that'll keep ya from voting, that or lack of interest-
both kept me home for elections in my student welfare days...

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Is there any way we could tie time on Facebook to National Serivice? I mean, if you're going to waste X# of years of your life on Facebook, you have to put that much time in National Service -- Peace Corps, Head Start, whatever. And any amount of time you spend watching anything that begins "Real Housewives of", you have to spend doing weed abatement, when it's hot, with only rasberry Koolaid to drink, and not the real, sugar kind, the asparatame nasty aftertaste kind.

See, right there is how bills get to be 2000 pages long. Just getting the Weed Abatement Koolaid right would take ten pages.

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