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sgt_steve

Joined: 18 Jan 2005
Posts: 5197
Location: Michissippi |
mllefifi wrote: |
Did I catch all of the methods? Razz |
Laveric wrote: |
The only other one I can think of off hand is that in some novels partial feedings bond the human to the vampire. |
Darquewillow_Lily wrote: |
Does this one count? Because Tommy and Abby did become minions. |
Yes, but ... in most vampire fiction I've seen where partial feeding creates a minion, the minion's will is overridden. That certainly wasn't the case with Tommy or Lily. In fact, Lily was a minion before first bite. I can't see that she acts any different afterwards.
Longer term, I don't think we're going to get any consistent explanation here without some sort of off-scene event. Here's what I think might work:
One path to vampirism is when a victim is partially drained, then allowed to return to health. On natural death, the victim returns as a vampire. This works for Tommy. It also works for the cat if we assume he got killed off-page (ie hit by a car, heart attack, what-have-you).
Another path is if blood loss is enough to cause eventual but not instantaneous death (body doesn't immediately turn to dust after feeding), there is enough time for the vampirism to take root before the heart stops. This is what happened with Blue, and may be what happened with Tommy and Jody.
There could be other paths as well - perhaps Elijah used some immediate method on Jody which she in turn used on Tommy.
Frankly, I think Chris is better off not attempting to define this publicly. As soon as you write down rules, the rules lawyers come out of the woodwork to tell you what you did wrong, or how the rule means that such-and-such should have happened elsewhere.
I'd love to see a little meaningful-only-to-longtime-readers scene in an upcoming novel where someone accidentally runs over a huge, shaved cat and then hides the body in a dumpster when he or she can't find an owner. Consider that scene yours, Chris.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:48 pm |
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mllefifi

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 8964
Location: Deleoware |
I have to look back into the two novels to revive my memory as to whether Elijah breaks the necks first, then drains most of the blood, or the other way around; in any case, he was using that combination of methods in order to leave a body. I would assume that the healing of the bite marks is a SUPERNATURAL OCCURRENCE, caused by inherent properties of the biter's saliva or some such thing.
Although there have been references here to Chet as a vampire-cat, I didn't get that impression from the novel (note that William, too, is not "turned"). After Jody feeds on her, Abby only imagines that she is a real part of the blood-club, when obviously she doesn't become a vampire yet, either.
Please excuse my poor attempt at literary analysis.
 _________________ "If you allow yourself to be offended, then you're a bit of [a] nitwit."
(Christopher Moore)
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