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Joelibris



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From hearing you at appearances, he was a major influence on you, not to mention one of the most important writers of the 20th century. Just curious, though; did you ever get to meet him in person?
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Heard this morning first on BBC radio. Sorry, Chris -- must be hard for you.
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Sorry man hang in there. This is a disservice to the literary world.
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I saw the annoucement last night. I was floored too. What a lost!
I was also sick that this annoucement was but a small sound bite with all of the Imus / Anna Nicole Smith / Duke bullshit that has been occupying the news as of late. There is so much important stuff going on out there, it just makes me sick! It's times like these that we need more Kurt Vonneguts in the world. Below is a list that Kurt read on the Daily Show a while ago to promote his last book.

Sweet dreams Kurt......



Kurt Vonnegut’s LIBERAL CRAP I NEVER WANT TO HEAR AGAIN
Give us this day our daily bread. Oh sure.
Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those wh trespass against us.
Nobody better trespass against me. I'll tell you that.
Blessed are the meek.
Blessed are the merciful. You mean we can't use torture?
Blessed are the peacemakers. Jane Fonda?
Love your enemies - Arabs?
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon. The hell I can't! Look at the Reverand Pat Robertson. And He is as happy as a pig in s**t.
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Joelibris wrote:
From hearing you at appearances, he was a major influence on you, not to mention one of the most important writers of the 20th century. Just curious, though; did you ever get to meet him in person?



Nope. Never met him.

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Vonnegut quotes:

"I like to say that the 51st state is the state of denial,"


When Hemingway killed himself he put a period at the end of his life; old age is more like a semicolon,"

Crying or Very sad
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It's kind of strange, but my first thought was ... and so it goes. And I've seen a ton of blogs and what not saying "and so it goes"

Just wondering if KV inspires the "and so it goes" thinking, or if it's just the thing one thinks when a beloved icon passes.
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knikkki wrote:
It's kind of strange, but my first thought was ... and so it goes. And I've seen a ton of blogs and what not saying "and so it goes"

Just wondering if KV inspires the "and so it goes" thinking, or if it's just the thing one thinks when a beloved icon passes.


He uses that in his books, a lot. Suetu can probably tell you which one it appears in most.

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Tomorrow's airing of Fresh Air is scheduled to replay an interview with KV.
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chris wrote:
knikkki wrote:
It's kind of strange, but my first thought was ... and so it goes. And I've seen a ton of blogs and what not saying "and so it goes"

Just wondering if KV inspires the "and so it goes" thinking, or if it's just the thing one thinks when a beloved icon passes.


He uses that in his books, a lot. Suetu can probably tell you which one it appears in most.


Slaughterhouse-Five.

Kurt Vonnegut employs a number of literary elements in writing Slaughterhouse - Five. One method that Vonnegut uses for humorous effect is repetition. An example is the use of the phrase, “So it goes,” whenever death is referred to in the novel. Vonnegut repeatedly uses this phrase throughout the book and early on explains that it is the philosophical way his fictional alien race, the Tralfamadorians, looks at death. Time is not linear to the aliens, so death is not a permanent thing to them. If someone has died now, they are still alive at many other points in time. So it goes. Vonnegut uses the phrase in several different ways throughout the book. When any of the characters dies - and a lot of people do die, this being a novel that concerns World War II and the fire-bombing of Dresden - the paragraph explaining the death is immediately followed by the phrase.

He also uses the phrase, "So it goes," to refer to things that even deal with death. The following quote for example, which is referring to the medieval torture device, the Iron Maiden: “. . . There was a drain in the bottom to let out all the blood. So it goes.” (p.36). Or this quote: “The axles of the cart were greased with the fat of dead animals. So it goes.” (p. 157). This repeated use of the phrase becomes humorous when used in the variety of different places it is used in the novel, first in the case of human death, then animal death and even the mention of a death-producing object. The ultimate extension of this repetition, also it’s humorous apex, is when Vonnegut uses it in instances where the word “dead” is used only as a metaphor, as in “The champagne was dead. So it goes.” (p.73).

Plagerised from: http://quinnell.us/literature/reviews/vonnegutperlman.html

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When I saw this news in the Times this morning I first thought of my husband and then of you Chris.

My husband loves Kurt Vonnegut as much as you Chris. When someone gives you so much joy and so much to think about throughout your life the idea that he's not in the world anymore is just too much to wrap your mind around.

There's always the work and that lives forever. I think it will live forever, it deserves to.

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suetu wrote:

Kurt Vonnegut employs a number of literary elements in writing Slaughterhouse - Five. One method that Vonnegut uses for humorous effect is repetition. An example is the use of the phrase, “So it goes,” whenever death is referred to in the novel.
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And there you go ...
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knikkki wrote:
suetu wrote:

Kurt Vonnegut employs a number of literary elements in writing Slaughterhouse - Five. One method that Vonnegut uses for humorous effect is repetition. An example is the use of the phrase, “So it goes,” whenever death is referred to in the novel.
Susan


And there you go ...

So it goes- one positive thing...
Our library was "remodeled" with much hoopla & fanfare-
but as far as those of who actually read can see, all they really did was hide the old books upstairs.
So if you want to read something that you couldn't buy at a bookstore,
you have to ask the librarians to retrieve it from the archives-
assuming, of course, that they have it...

I went to the library today & next to the new releases, they had a Kurt Vonnegut display.
It included a few of his older books & a list of his work-
so now maybe more folks around here will have the chance to read his books.
Sucks that he had to die before they saw fit to bring his books out of hiding though.
RIP Kurt...

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I have a 1st edition hardcover (with dust jacket) of Slaughtrerhouse Five. He was one of my favorite authors, and I had always thought that I'd have it autographed, it would have been great to meet him. I wish I could be more like the Tralfamadorians on this, but I can't, I need to feel the sense of loss:

"Now, when I myself hear that somebody is dead, I simply shrug and say what the Tralfamadorians say about dead people, which is ‘So it goes’.”

-KV, Slaughterhouse Five
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When I heard the announcement I thought about you as well. I know that he was very influential to you. I got a few of his books yesterday. They had a great display of his work at the checkout with a nice article.

Take care.

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