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FattyFattyPorkFace wrote:
Well, if prison is purely punishment that leads us to a different place than if we're looking to rehabilitate.


Why should we need to rehabilitate?
If it's fucked up out of the box, it gets sent back to the manufacturer, right?
What part of "Don't stab people for no good reason." didn't you understand as a child?
What part of don't steal didn't you understand?
Why should I have to ask you these questions?
Did I NOT make myself clear the first time?
I do tire of all the "we have to be sympathetic and understanding" nonsense.
NO. WE. DO NOT.
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Post Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:35 am   View user's profile Send private message
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Why does it have to be either/or?
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marksiwel wrote:
Property crime and drunk driving are higher in Canada than in the US.

marksiwel wrote:
Property crime (Robbery) and vehicle theft are still higher in Canada.

So is it drunk driving, vehicle theft, stealing a vehicle while under the influence, stealing drunk drivers' vehicles, stealing drunken vehicles, drinking stolen vehicles, or all of the above that happen more often in Canada than in the US? Do concealed weapons reduce drunk driving? Where is your source?
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fortune cookie wrote:
FattyFattyPorkFace wrote:
Well, if prison is purely punishment that leads us to a different place than if we're looking to rehabilitate.


Why should we need to rehabilitate?
If it's fucked up out of the box, it gets sent back to the manufacturer, right?
What part of "Don't stab people for no good reason." didn't you understand as a child?
What part of don't steal didn't you understand?
Why should I have to ask you these questions?
Did I NOT make myself clear the first time?
I do tire of all the "we have to be sympathetic and understanding" nonsense.
NO. WE. DO NOT.


FC, I think I love you.

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Tito wrote:
fortune cookie wrote:
FattyFattyPorkFace wrote:
Well, if prison is purely punishment that leads us to a different place than if we're looking to rehabilitate.


Why should we need to rehabilitate?
If it's fucked up out of the box, it gets sent back to the manufacturer, right?
What part of "Don't stab people for no good reason." didn't you understand as a child?
What part of don't steal didn't you understand?
Why should I have to ask you these questions?
Did I NOT make myself clear the first time?
I do tire of all the "we have to be sympathetic and understanding" nonsense.
NO. WE. DO NOT.


FC, I think I love you.


Kewell, but if Kar shows up, keep it on the D/L.
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Ya know, for a moment there, ya sounded just like Anne Coulter, and I was considering a threesome. Twisted Evil

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I found a graph on wikipedia that referenced a non existant pdf (reference), but I bet the data is good. Shows how Canada burglaries have been greater than the US since about 1991, and that burglaries in the US (per capita) have been dropping ever since. I added some dates of gun control laws according to infoplease, and threw together this picture

1st blue line: 1986 Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act, Firearms Owners' Protection Act
2nd blue line: 1990 Crime Control Act
3rd blue line: 1994 Brady handgun Violence Prevention Act, Assault Weapons Ban

Would the US line look different if it weren't for the gun control laws enacted at the blue lines? We'll never know. I just like data and references Smile
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lisa wrote:
marksiwel wrote:
Ginjg wrote:
The swiss have the 3rd highest per capita gun ownership and one of the lowest murder rates. Yemen is 2nd in ownership and only middle of the pack in murder rate.

you beat me to it with the swiss thing


But Switzerland is not even a place.


[img]http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Everyone%20Else/images-3/switzerland-map.jpg

Where the hell is that then?[/img]

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marksiwel wrote:
lisa wrote:
marksiwel wrote:
Ginjg wrote:
The swiss have the 3rd highest per capita gun ownership and one of the lowest murder rates. Yemen is 2nd in ownership and only middle of the pack in murder rate.

you beat me to it with the swiss thing


But Switzerland is not even a place.




Where the hell is that then?


Did you mean this?
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marksiwel wrote:
lisa wrote:
marksiwel wrote:
Ginjg wrote:
The swiss have the 3rd highest per capita gun ownership and one of the lowest murder rates. Yemen is 2nd in ownership and only middle of the pack in murder rate.

you beat me to it with the swiss thing


But Switzerland is not even a place.


Where the hell is that then?


Technically India is a "third world" country. From their point of view, all other worlds are beneath them, Switzerland, so far so that it is merely mythical.
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fortune cookie wrote:
marksiwel wrote:
lisa wrote:
marksiwel wrote:
Ginjg wrote:
The swiss have the 3rd highest per capita gun ownership and one of the lowest murder rates. Yemen is 2nd in ownership and only middle of the pack in murder rate.

you beat me to it with the swiss thing


But Switzerland is not even a place.




Where the hell is that then?


Did you mean this?


Or rather this?


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Ginjg wrote:


Technically India is a "third world" country. From their point of view, all other worlds are beneath them, Switzerland, so far so that it is merely mythical.

This is why I dont do drugs.

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Ginjg wrote:
may I point out that we are more pragmatic than liberal; we're reluctant to criminalize things merely because the relative few misuse them.


Exactly!!!

And for the record... Ild give up my citizenship and move to canadia before i give up any of my firearm you commie fuck!!!
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Oooops... That commie fuck comment was not directed to anyone in particular... But feel free to take offense if the shoe fits...
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