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If I get the choice, do I take the job in Detroit?
Yes
66%
 66%  [ 18 ]
No
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Only if there is an attractive lady over there to visit once in a while
22%
 22%  [ 6 ]
Stay out of our country you stupid Brit
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
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Hillary



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Sara Leigh wrote:
You'll be a novelty, FFPF. I hear women in America go crazy for a man with a British accent. That was one of the story lines in Love, Actually, wasn't it?


He'll have to beat them off with a stick. Poor guy.

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conspiracies unlimited



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I'm inclined to agree with the mighty AG... And not because I'm kissing ass or anything...

But, the midwest isn't known for being a hot bed of tolerance or intellectual stimulation, or any of the things that this forum and its users tend to hold in high regard...

--CU

It could be worse, FFPF... they could be shipping your limey ass to Crawford...

Cheers, mate!!!

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conspiracies unlimited wrote:
It could be worse, FFPF... they could be shipping your limey ass to Crawford...


Don't worry, Jeff. If they ship you to Crawford, I'll drive up and get you and take you to Austin. Austin is wonderful. Very Happy
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The percentage of anti-intellectuals is certianly higher in the Midwest than in, say, California - but the most willfully ignorant batch of folks I ever dealt with were a California pseudo-religious cult. Not that this matters much one way or the other, just pointing out that such things are a continuum, not an absolute division.

Plymouth is very reasonable commuting distance by American standards from Ann Arbor, a place the used to bill itself as the Athens of the Midwest. I work there, I've lived there, and *I* call the Arboreals arrogant. It's where I go for entertainment, for some great bookstores and pretty good food - but it's not where I wanted my kids to grow up. There's a terrible sense of entitlement in the town, a palpable feeling that You Owe Them Something because they Happen To Be Educated, and they want you to shut up and listen while they prove how educated they are. IMHO it's the flip side of the Midwestern (or more properly, small town American) anti-intellectual streak. Small towns breed insular attitudes, and I saw the same streaks in small towns in San Diego County - well, back when there still *were* small towns in San Diego County.

Anyway, don't let Chris' dire warnings of Midwestern provincialism hold you back. There's a wide variety of folks, and you'll have no trouble attracing the best of the bunch with that sexy furriner accent. It's true, it's true.

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sgt_steve wrote:
There's a terrible sense of entitlement in the town, a palpable feeling that You Owe Them Something because they Happen To Be Educated, and they want you to shut up and listen while they prove how educated they are.


Wow. You sure you're not from Boston proper?

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get your ass over here! if you hate it, just skip out on your work visa, become an illegal alien, live as a gigalo and service rich older married women until you get enough dough to fly to hawaii - then it's off to chris' house where you can spend the rest of your days living beneath the steps of his porch and writing your memiors...

...oh wait, i think someone already did that...


...never mind...
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Hillary wrote:
sgt_steve wrote:
There's a terrible sense of entitlement in the town, a palpable feeling that You Owe Them Something because they Happen To Be Educated, and they want you to shut up and listen while they prove how educated they are.


Wow. You sure you're not from Boston proper?


Pretty sure Smile. Folks who know both towns extensively claim there are similarities. I've only been in Boston for a weekend once and didn't particularly notice it.

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But, the midwest isn't known for being a hot bed of tolerance or intellectual stimulation, or any of the things that this forum and its users tend to hold in high regard...


Aw shucks. It may be just that I'm just an ignorant, simple Midwestern girl, but isn't one of the hallmarks of intolerance when folks start making sweeping generalizations about large, diverse groups of other folks? Hmmm...

Also, what is the critical mass production of artists and/or intellectuals for a geographic area to be considered for "hotbed" status? Is that determined on an intellectuals-per-capita basis? Does a region get extra points for multiple entries, or does only one candidate per category count?

(Ouch, didn't know I had this nerve. Sorry, I think I'm displacing my inauguration day angst)
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Sara Leigh wrote:
You'll be a novelty, FFPF.


Of that, I have no doubt. I'm pretty sure that darn handsome, musically and lyrically talented, tall, modest, software-engineering Englishmen are pretty hard to come by. Cool

Sara Leigh wrote:
I hear women in America go crazy for a man with a British accent. That was one of the story lines in Love, Actually, wasn't it?


You haven't heard my voice...I might sound like Quasimodo on acid or something. But, on the off chance that I do in fact sound super sexy and lovely, has anyone got a beating stick I can borrow? Think? Could you lend me yours? I'll look after it, I swear. Twisted Evil

Hillary wrote:
He'll have to beat them off with a stick. Poor guy.


Yes, poor me. I could hire bodyguards though...anyone? I can pay in...*thinks of some American stuff*...pretzels and twinkies...I may even stretch to uniforms. Jeffsquad style.

At last, the AG compound can begin...
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chris
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sgt_steve wrote:
Small towns breed insular attitudes, and I saw the same streaks in small towns in San Diego County - well, back when there still *were* small towns in San Diego County.




Good point, Steve.

A couple of points --

First, I get my buttons pushed pretty easily about that area of the country because that's where I grew up, and I'm still extraordinarily pissed off that my home state voted for Bush even in the face of devastating job loss and negative economic impact from that administration's policies.

And second, Jeff lives in Cambridge. I don't think we'll faze him with intellectual elitism in any of our college towns.

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Juliann wrote:
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But, the midwest isn't known for being a hot bed of tolerance or intellectual stimulation, or any of the things that this forum and its users tend to hold in high regard...


Aw shucks. It may be just that I'm just an ignorant, simple Midwestern girl, but isn't one of the hallmarks of intolerance when folks start making sweeping generalizations about large, diverse groups of other folks? Hmmm...


Sweeping generalizations... well duh!!! Thats what America is all about -- didn't you get the memo???

Look, if we can't insult one another on a regular basis, and throw around baseless stereotypes, whats the point???

What's the point, I say!?!
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hdm



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I have to agree with AG.

I live in a college town...so it's not AS bad here. I majored in theatre, though, and when I told my relatives, they looked like I told them I was majoring in masturbating bears.

Our household is a bunch of "Liberal Wieners" and my husband has to wear hick camo when he works 45 minutes north of here. He does like to shake it up, though - when everyone is talking about the Packers in the breakroom, he always asks when chess players are going to get paid on the same scale as pro football players. We don't tell anyone about when he played Lysander in "Midsummer Night's Dream" and had to wear tights. Bad things could happen. I'm not kidding.

Unless you have a Ph. D., if you enunciate and don't say "yah, you bet" people look at you like you like you're a snob. It is absolutely illegal up here for anyone to act like they're better than anyone else. Or even think it. I have the shock collar to prove it.

They don't "unnerstand" why anyone would want to give up their "good job" at a manufacturing plant to go back to school to finish a degree. Why anyone would have any dream besides a steady paycheck, health insurance and a minivan fulla kids.

Well, you know what? Good for them. If they can be happy that easily, lucky them.

It's not for me, though. I can reside here, but I live through the books I read, the stuff I write, the places I visit and my Walter Mitty-esque fantasies...

But there are also lots of really nice people and some cool stuff to see, especially if you like "scenery" rather than "history."

So, yeah, come to the states, FFPF. It is a great place to visit. You'll meet the dumb half and the smart half...it will be a good anthropological experiment.

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Well, if it's a choice between unemployment or Detroit it's still debatable on which is the better situation. My problem with Motown is that the city itself is dirty and in disrepair. However, there are other parts of Michigan that are fantastic, especially along Lake Michigan and in the Upper Peninsula.

I will have to agree with Juliann for the most part (sorry AG). My work takes me all over the country and the people I enjoy most are the down-to-earth, unpretentious Midwesterners. I will grant you that there may be higher concentrations of closed-minded people in certain parts of the country ( I grew up in the south and I saw my fair share of folks who couldn't see past their narrow scope of experience). But I've also met more closed-minded people from California than any place I've been. They're just overly parochial on different issues.
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hdm wrote:

I live in a college town...so it's not AS bad here. I majored in theatre, though, and when I told my relatives, they looked like I told them I was majoring in masturbating bears.


Actually, that's a combined major at Ohio State. I thought it was to keep the bears happy, but it turns out, it's to keep the actor population in check. Evidently, nothing whets the ursine appetite like a thespian hand job.

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Sweeping generalizations... well duh!!! Thats what America is all about -- didn't you get the memo???

Look, if we can't insult one another on a regular basis, and throw around baseless stereotypes, whats the point???

What's the point, I say!?!


Isn't that just like a Californian to make a joke out of something as serious as Midwest-bashing? Sheesh. Next you'll ask me to take this pinecone out of my ass...Oh! My, that is a bit more comfortable.

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So, yeah, come to the states, FFPF. It is a great place to visit. You'll meet the dumb half and the smart half...it will be a good anthropological experiment.


We try our best to keep foreigners guessing which half is which.

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OMG, I just spit Sprite through my nose. Precious.
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