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Oooh bad self publishing! No Cookie for you!

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Tal



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Oooh bad self publishing! No Cookie for you!  Reply with quote  

Take a gander at this. I take no responsibility if you feel the need to spork your eyes out at any point during reading it. I love that the biography is longer than the book sample. :p
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Lauren



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Eyes...bleeding. Brain...throbbing...

That bio reads like a bad Mary Sue fanfic. Maybe that reaction was triggered by the last name "Riddell"

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Single at age thirty-two she says that she is patient and believes that the one with the magical eyes will find her.


Bwahahahahaha! OMG TEH ANGST!!11!

Age 32? Yeah, right. And notice her goddaughter is her "editor." Um, how old is the god-kid? Twelve? Apparently the kid failed English.

Atlanta Nights, on the other hand, is the best bad book I've ever read. The short version is this: there's a vanity publisher called PublishAmerica that claims to be a traditional publisher, and not a vanity press. They're a scam. Several published SF authors, editors and notables got together and wrote the worst book they could come up with to submit to PA. PA accepted it. When the hoax was revealed, PA pulled the offer. The press release is here.

There are a ton of useful links at (where else?) Making Light. Teresa Nielsen Hayden won't reveal which chapter she wrote, but she was in on it. There was so much demand for it that they ended up putting it out throught Lulu.com and all proceeds will go to the SF Writers of America emergency fund. Word of mouth has put it on Lulu's bestseller list already.

Moral of the story: don't piss off the SF community.
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Tal



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buahahahahahahahaha! Thats great! Just as a FYI Publish America is just down the street from my work. Wink
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Boota



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I published my book through Authorhouse, because I have no patience and I'm a godawful vulgarian, but fortunately I didn't have nearly as much to say about myself in the biography. LOL. I'm not sure what the point of that was, but I was very conscious of not using my page on that site to turn potential readers off. That's what that bio did to me. I realized that no one wants to hear about me when they're thinking about buying my book. Strangely enough, though, my bio has made it's way into every review I have ever gotten.
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Shocked Shocked Sad Confused Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

I couldn't finish it. I tried and I tried but I couldn't get through the bio without my insides threatening to leap out of my throat and plunge into my eyes to keep me from reading any more.
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Wow. How could you not know?

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Goudron



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John wrote:
Shocked Shocked Sad Confused Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

I couldn't finish it. I tried and I tried but I couldn't get through the bio without my insides threatening to leap out of my throat and plunge into my eyes to keep me from reading any more.


If you drink a couple glasses of wine first, it's all condensed to "blahblahblah" and you only spend half a second reading it all.
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Boota



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I almost didn't publish POD because of the stigma of it. The general consensus is that if you publish POD it is because you suck and no one "real" would take you. In fact, when I get mail from readers it usually says something to the effect of, "Since it came out POD, I thought it was going to suck, but...". Word of mouth is saving my ass. LOL. While it's true that POD companies will print anything, that doesn't mean that everything they print is bad.

Authorhouse didn't do to me what PublishAmerica does. PA outright lies and guarantees things that they can't deliver on. I recognized that and went elsewhere. Authorhouse let me know up front exactly what they would do and what was my responsibility. Where I got lucky is that a woman in the company took it upon herself to personally push my book, and that has helped a lot.
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What does POD stand for?
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POD= Print On Demand
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